• Dynasty
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发表于: 10/13/2004 16:21 发表主题: Re: blah blan
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well, i will try to show you some pictures.


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I agree to A and C. I don't quite agree to D and E. Zhang Yimou got awards for photos taken by his 凤凰205, a lousy entry level camera with nothing automatic. You don't need to have perfect tree combination. What you need are only a pair of perfect eyes to find the beauty from normal scenes.

I totally disagree to B. Blue sky without cloud is very dull. Sunny days burn out the details of beautiful views. Check the great works of true photography masters, you will seldom find photos taken in sunny days without cloud.

You need B only when your camera lens is extremely lousy and cannot provide enough contrast under cloudy sky.

Dynasty 写到:
I agree what you said, to shot the prefect foliage picutres, you have to have some lucks. you will need

A perfect year. some years there were a lot of showers and snows in the foliage season which will total screw the leaves.

B perfect weather while you were shoting. Sunny without cloud is the best as you will get more georgerous colors.

C perfect timing while shotting. Morning or afternoon makes difference because shot under reverse lights is a disaster.

D fairy perfect camera (digital). Cannon has the best true color.

E perfect tree combination, maples tree are the most red ones while birches are yellow.. only certain white mtn. region has hills which are maple tree only, that means you will get red only without any other colors.


Last year, I went to north white mtn and I met all 5 above perfect conditons, my pictures were burned on cd. I will try to get several posted here.

Enjoy the photography !!!













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I am really happy to see that you guys start to discuss technical issues. I found the beauty of fall foliage is really hard to record. Although I took trips to NH/VT/MA in the past couple of years, my good photos can still easily be counted by my fingers. Anyway, let's continue this discussion within a good atmosphere. And I cannot wait to see those perfect photos.

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发表于: 10/13/2004 17:17 发表主题: Re: blah blan
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I first agree that nature photographers need some luck to make outstanding works. I always think nature photographers are like farmers, heavily relying on the weather.
However, I believe that the most important issue is the photographer's eyes. Often times, when I read some big named guys' works, I am surprised by the angles they view the world.
Well, as for the five points you listed. I completely agree with C. Kind of agree with A and E, there are always perfect scenes even if the year and trees are not perfect, but the problem is whether we can find such scenes out of the seemingly boring view. A perfect year and some perfect trees make the job easier. BTW, aspens are as beautiful as sugar maples in Fall seasons.
The first half of B is absolutely right, but the second half really depends on the particular situation. For example, a cloudless sky makes it virtually impossible to take pictures in a forest, but makes it perfect for a backlighted leaves shot.
As for D, first of all, there is no perfect camera. I would love to have a Canon 1Ds, but its price, size and weight make it imperfect. That's the reason why many professionals and advanced ametures have more than one systems. For most people, a humble 3 megapixel DC or a $100 Rebel G is enough. Also, please tell me what is true color. Nobody will say Fuji Velvia reflects the real colors, but >95% of professional nature photographers use it, except for those who use DSLR. BTW, if you really want good color, check out Caril Zeiss Y/C lenses.
Anyway, art, including nature photography, is a very subjective thing. A photo may be perfect to someone, but junky to someone else. Thus, please take it easy and do not try to persuade somebody. And this is exactly the reason so many people love art.


Dynasty 写到:
I agree what you said, to shot the prefect foliage picutres, you have to have some lucks. you will need

A perfect year. some years there were a lot of showers and snows in the foliage season which will total screw the leaves.

B perfect weather while you were shoting. Sunny without cloud is the best as you will get more georgerous colors.

C perfect timing while shotting. Morning or afternoon makes difference because shot under reverse lights is a disaster.

D fairy perfect camera (digital). Cannon has the best true color.

E perfect tree combination, maples tree are the most red ones while birches are yellow.. only certain white mtn. region has hills which are maple tree only, that means you will get red only without any other colors.


Last year, I went to north white mtn and I met all 5 above perfect conditons, my pictures were burned on cd. I will try to get several posted here.

Enjoy the photography !!!













suyu1997 写到:
I am really happy to see that you guys start to discuss technical issues. I found the beauty of fall foliage is really hard to record. Although I took trips to NH/VT/MA in the past couple of years, my good photos can still easily be counted by my fingers. Anyway, let's continue this discussion within a good atmosphere. And I cannot wait to see those perfect photos.

发表于: 10/14/2004 00:57 发表主题: Thanks
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Thanks for all the comments and suggestions, I am glad some of you liked it. It was a great Photograph outing weekend. Thanks LM and everyone else. I am so glad we are talking about photographing. I totally agree with Suyu that , "art, including nature photography, is a very subjective thing. A photo may be perfect to someone, but junky to someone else. Thus, please take it easy and do not try to persuade somebody. And this is exactly the reason so many people love art."
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发表于: 10/14/2004 09:52 发表主题: blah blah
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I am not a very serious photography fan but I just like to shot.

the photoes bellow were shot on my way to work yesterday, they are still hot. Please enjoy.


http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid142/pa350720a1b7a2ca93c1b44510ff13c4c/f6a65274.jpg.orig.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid142/p6800a2bfaf1a70d2ff0fc93dcf97b185/f6a651d8.jpg.orig.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid142/p5303809873131a45b47dcfc16b8917d5/f6a65181.jpg.orig.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid142/pcec1f2f3692dbda892b9c53afd7e735c/f6a65139.jpg.orig.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid142/p9ee3dc0fed41efee3921bc6777dac94e/f6a650b1.jpg.orig.jpg


I am using a very cheap cannon dc, got from ebay under less than 80 bucks. I just like it.


Image Details:

JPEG process Baseline
Camera make Canon
Date/Time 2004:10:12 23:06:41
Flash used No
CCD width 5.23mm
Exposure time 0.005 s (1/200)
File size 299585 bytes
File date 2004:10:13 20:38:15
Resolution 1024 x 768
Camera model Canon PowerShot A40
Focal length 6.6mm (35mm equivalent: 45mm)
Metering Mode matrix
Aperture f/9.0
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发表于: 10/14/2004 10:14 发表主题: sdf23dsffd
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a test to post a image.


http://community.webshots.com/s/image3/7/60/22/1576022HxDAUVFXQV_ph.jpg
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发表于: 10/14/2004 10:19 发表主题: Re: blah blah
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Dynasty 写到:

Image Details:

JPEG process Baseline
Camera make Canon
Date/Time 2004:10:12 23:06:41
Flash used No
CCD width 5.23mm
Exposure time 0.005 s (1/200)
File size 299585 bytes
File date 2004:10:13 20:38:15
Resolution 1024 x 768
Camera model Canon PowerShot A40
Focal length 6.6mm (35mm equivalent: 45mm)
Metering Mode matrix
Aperture f/9.0


啥也看不见啊,那个地方的连不过来,你试试别的server看
建议你用些软件做个网页什么的,然后照片的数据可以跟着每张照片显示出来,否则你光贴一个也没什么意思
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发表于: 10/14/2004 10:19 发表主题: Re: sdf23dsffd
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Dynasty 写到:
a test to post a image.


http://community.webshots.com/s/image3/7/60/22/1576022HxDAUVFXQV_ph.jpg

还是看不见
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发表于: 10/14/2004 10:23 发表主题: Re: Thanks
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Whitesand 写到:
Thanks for all the comments and suggestions, I am glad some of you liked it. It was a great Photograph outing weekend. Thanks LM and everyone else. I am so glad we are talking about photographing. I totally agree with Suyu that , "art, including nature photography, is a very subjective thing. A photo may be perfect to someone, but junky to someone else. Thus, please take it easy and do not try to persuade somebody. And this is exactly the reason so many people love art."


I really like your photos! 器材好就是牛啊! wink
那个边框有点粗重,下次搞个轻点的看看
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发表于: 10/14/2004 10:23 发表主题: Re: sdf23dsffd
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You can open a new browser window and paste the URL in the address bar to view it, some websites are set to prevent outside links.

Dynasty, we are waiting for your "perfect" photos you said to post yesterday!!!

[quote="Annie"][quote="Dynasty"]a test to post a image.


http://community.webshots.com/s/image3/7/60/22/1576022HxDAUVFXQV_ph.jpg[/quote]
还是看不见[/quote]
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发表于: 10/14/2004 10:24 发表主题: Re: blah blah
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Where are your "perfect" photos? Are those pictures considered "perfect" by you? I hope not.

Dynasty 写到:
I am not a very serious photography fan but I just like to shot.

the photoes bellow were shot on my way to work yesterday, they are still hot. Please enjoy.


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发表于: 10/14/2004 10:27 发表主题: Re: sdf23dsffd
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The ones you said you shot in sunny day last year and put in CD rom.

[quote="cookie"]You can open a new browser window and paste the URL in the address bar to view it, some websites are set to prevent outside links.

Dynasty, we are waiting for your "perfect" photos you said to post yesterday!!!

[quote="Annie"][quote="Dynasty"]a test to post a image.


http://community.webshots.com/s/image3/7/60/22/1576022HxDAUVFXQV_ph.jpg[/quote]
还是看不见[/quote][/quote]
发表于: 10/14/2004 10:31 发表主题: Re: Thanks
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人的因素才是主要的。

Annie 写到:
器材好就是牛啊! wink

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发表于: 10/14/2004 10:36 发表主题: Re: Thanks
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support 坚决同意!

不过,坚决反对用傻瓜机出"作品"! 因为用了傻瓜机,就把一切都交给了相机,根本不能发挥自己的能动性和discretion,等于把一切都交给了器材决定.

所以,要摄影,起码要用自己可以控制的相机(不一定是单反机).

SouthernBoy 写到:
人的因素才是主要的。

Annie 写到:
器材好就是牛啊! wink

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发表于: 10/14/2004 10:43 发表主题: sdafdsdsaf
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http://www.geocities.com/gosun323/pics/fall1.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/gosun323/pics/fall2.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/gosun323/pics/fall3.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/gosun323/pics/fall4.jpg


luckly i found some left. but geocities will not work if too many people watch, give it a shot.

I like these photoes and they are perfect for me, that's the most important thing. ha ha ha ha
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发表于: 10/14/2004 10:47 发表主题: test
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