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根据这组照片我基本可以肯定blueZ大虾一定是壁虎转世投胎,绝非等闲之辈。
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that's what i thought, afterall it is still a well marked hiking trail....

Honeymoon: BlueZ told me this morning that this trail is not that difficult


I said the trail is not that difficult doesn't mean the trail is not difficult. I seldom say (or have never said) a trail is difficult.

I told greentea the trail is not that difficult because I know she took the rock climbing class ...

Yes, the trail is well marked. but marks are there doesn't mean they are easy to reach/follow ...


You don't need to be a hiker to hike Mt. Washington (via other trails), but you need to be reasonably fit. For huntington Ravine trail, IMHO, you need at least a little (or some) hiking experience.

other trails, you made mistake, you have twisted ankle. huntington Ravine Trail, one misstep, you fall into the ravine floor.



If a hiker fell near the top of the headwall, he would be expected to end at the base of Yale Gully ― a fall of about 1,700 feet.
....
Since Jason almost certainly died immediately after such a severe fall, a hiking companion would not have been able to do anything for him after the accident. A companion, however, might have pointed out to him the danger of descending Huntington Ravine in winter. Two heads are almost always better than one.

http://www.outdoors.org/publications/appalachia/2005/2005-accident-reports.cfm

I like this comment:
" In summer, there is a short scramble (need to use hands) and some exposure (scary view down), but it is not difficult (if dry). IMO, it doesn't deserve to be feared by most hikers. (Respected yes, feared no.) Go up it your first time and see how you like it. (Up is easier than down, but both directions are very doable.) "

take a look of some pictures I took in my trip,
http://shenghuonet.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php3?t=7670

please take some pitures too, I want to see the ravine in clear condition. rose rose rose

Be safe, good luck.

sorry, if you don't feel safe, dont' take pictures, concentrate on your footing and climbing!

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发表于: 7/22/2005 16:11 发表主题:
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bagofbones 写到:
上面要是还带水的话,更本好像没法爬。 Mad
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bluez,你拍的照片都好可怕啊.看着都是90度的坡了. 我在其他几个网页上看的照片.虽然险,但是还能爬..你拍的照片.让我看了以后特别害怕..要是真的那么险..我肯定不敢上去.555555555555555


因为别人腾不出手来照相,只专心爬山了!
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
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发表于: 7/22/2005 16:17 发表主题:
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bagofbones 写到:
根据这组照片我基本可以肯定blueZ大虾一定是壁虎转世投胎,绝非等闲之辈。


Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
I am able to climb 5.7 route in the gym...

I should thank that "father and son". without them, hiking solo under such bad condition is miserable and scary. we supported each other and I had great time with them.





发表于: 7/22/2005 16:42 发表主题:
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bluez..真的是90度吗?


最后进行编辑的是 honeymoon on 7/22/2005 16:52, 总计第 1 次编辑
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90度那水就是飞不是流了 Laughing

好象真的是在飞啊 牛



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bluez..真的是因为90度吗?

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BLUEZ自己的照片贴里面有几张看起来非常险...

上面那个回贴第二张看起来也很危险吧


最后进行编辑的是 honeymoon on 7/22/2005 16:55, 总计第 1 次编辑
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blueZ大侠这几天很安静啊,是不是有什么缘故? confused
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当年就是被bb back的帖子震住了,一直没敢去。
现在我好不容易鼓起的勇气又快被BlueZ的照片吓没了。
师兄,凭你的经验和对我的了解,你说,我能爬这trail不?
Peachleaf, 5.7的route咱俩上去过没?

blueZ 写到:
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
I am able to climb 5.7 route in the gym...

bb back 写到:
为同志们的生命安全考虑
决定推迟一帖自杀

这个Huntington
即使是全干的trail
在那个headwall上
还是会强烈感觉
随时可能成为
半自由落体

这个headwall
平平光光
就那么几个缝可以扒一扒
如果胳膊和腿的长度稍微欠缺一点
够不着下一条缝
挂在那里
n天以后
可能会别有风味罢
(谁老在叫牛肉干来着?)

如果选它来下山
倒可以提高速度
节省时间
只是下山以后
要费点时间
把自己的零件拣在一起
组装起来
才好回家

闲来无事
量了量自己的胳膊和腿
算来算去
还是怕不够长
所以决定
还是在这里自杀巴
不然万一作了恶鬼
MM们要睡不好觉乐



最后进行编辑的是 Greentea on 7/22/2005 17:01, 总计第 1 次编辑
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[quote="Greentea"]当年就是被bb back的帖子震住了,一直没敢去。
现在我好不容易鼓起的勇气又快被BlueZ的照片吓没了。
师兄,凭你的经验和对我的了解,你说,我能爬这trail不?
Peachleaf, 5.7的trail咱俩上去过没?

[quote]

什么是5.7 trail? confused
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Greentea 写到:
当年就是被bb back的帖子震住了,一直没敢去。
现在我好不容易鼓起的勇气又快被BlueZ的照片吓没了。
师兄,凭你的经验和对我的了解,你说,我能爬这trail不?
Peachleaf, 5.7的trail咱俩上去过没?


离 90度远着呢,
Huntington Ravien Trail is Class 3 climbing at most.
Scrambling or simple climbing; requires extensive use of hands.

你能上。小心点就好了。
5.7 不用rope你会死得很惨很惨。
有一次我爬 5.8 (in gym...), 就差一点就到顶了,然后就没有力气了,那真是上不去,下不来,一点运动的余地都没有。那时第一次体会到绳子和belayer 的作用 .....

Class 1
Hiking, possibly light scrambling; requires little if any use of hands.

Class 2
Scrambling, usually requiring use of hands.

Class 3
Scrambling or simple climbing; requires extensive use of hands. A rope is recommended.

Class 4
Steep climbing; requires a roped belay.

Class 5
Serious technical climbing.

Class 5 is broken down into the following detailed extensions:

5.0 to 5.4
Relatively secure climbing, with two hand- and two footholds available for every move.

5.5 to 5.6
Two hand- and two footholds are available for every move, though they may be less prominent; requires rock climbing techniques such as hand jamming.

5.7 to 5.8
One or two of the hand- or footholds are missing on at least one of the moves.

5.9
At least one pitch requires movement when only one hold is available.

5.10 and above
Movement on steep terrain with no apparent hand- or footholds. These routes require superb rock climbing skills and sometimes artificial aids.
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发表于: 7/22/2005 17:14 发表主题:
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breezy 写到:
blueZ大侠这几天很安静啊,是不是有什么缘故? confused


呵呵,breezy同学 可真是包打听啊!!! Surprised Surprised
以后想知道什么问她就好了! rose rose rose


最后进行编辑的是 blueZ on 7/22/2005 17:19, 总计第 1 次编辑
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茶同学,你可千万不能打退堂鼓,大家都等着你组织呢。
下个礼拜开始我要进行室内攀岩魔鬼训练。有没有人可以推荐训练场所,没有的话之只能晚上一个人偷偷得出来爬墙了。

Greentea 写到:
当年就是被bb back的帖子震住了,一直没敢去。
现在我好不容易鼓起的勇气又快被BlueZ的照片吓没了。
师兄,凭你的经验和对我的了解,你说,我能爬这trail不?
Peachleaf, 5.7的route咱俩上去过没?

blueZ 写到:
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
I am able to climb 5.7 route in the gym...

bb back 写到:
为同志们的生命安全考虑
决定推迟一帖自杀

这个Huntington
即使是全干的trail
在那个headwall上
还是会强烈感觉
随时可能成为
半自由落体

这个headwall
平平光光
就那么几个缝可以扒一扒
如果胳膊和腿的长度稍微欠缺一点
够不着下一条缝
挂在那里
n天以后
可能会别有风味罢
(谁老在叫牛肉干来着?)

如果选它来下山
倒可以提高速度
节省时间
只是下山以后
要费点时间
把自己的零件拣在一起
组装起来
才好回家

闲来无事
量了量自己的胳膊和腿
算来算去
还是怕不够长
所以决定
还是在这里自杀巴
不然万一作了恶鬼
MM们要睡不好觉乐

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honeymoon 写到:
BLUEZ自己的照片贴里面有几张看起来非常险...

上面那个回贴第二张看起来也很危险吧


一般情况下,真实的trail比照出来的还要险。

不过多险的trail,人都能爬上去。

honeymoon, 我写这些只是想让你多加小心。别太“轻敌”了。

有的时候我随口瞎说,别的trail无所谓,这个Huntington确实有那么点危险,不想误导群众。

Success


最后进行编辑的是 blueZ on 7/22/2005 17:44, 总计第 1 次编辑
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什么是5.7 trail? confused


攀岩运动里对route(trail)难度的分级(as BlueZ listed)。non-route climbing时,岩壁上的任何支点都可以利用。route climbing时,你必须remain in the route,即使route之外有更便于手攀脚登的支点或裂缝,
也不可以去捧。5.7的route对绝大部分女生都是极难的,我看到的大多因为四肢不够长或手臂力量不够从岩壁上掉下来 cry
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下个礼拜开始我要进行室内攀岩魔鬼训练。有没有人可以推荐训练场所,没有的话之只能晚上一个人偷偷得出来爬墙了。


http://www.bu.edu/fitrec/programs/pe/climbing.html