Torturing Democracy 5/31/2009 16:45
关心时事的人, 值得花点时间仔细看看这个. warning: it can be disturbing.

看纪录片在这里:
http://torturingdemocracy.org/

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/05292009/profile.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/16/arts/television/16pbs.html

看完了讨论
以前看过这个纪录片也是关于美国torthure. 里边有一些更gross的镜头, 在Torturing Democracy里没有.

"Taxi to the Dark Side" (2007)
by Alex Gibney


看过后忘了名字, 刚一查询发现导演很牛, 下面列的其他几个片子, 我也将找出来看看. 特记录在此.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Gibney


NYS Writers Institute Hosts Alex Gibney Documentary Film Festival
Writers Institute Events Week of April 20-24, 2009
http://readme.readmedia.com/news/show/NYS-Writers-Institute-Hosts-Alex-Gibney-Documentary-Film-Festival/556211
ALBANY, NY (04/09/2009; 1109)(readMedia)-- Alex Gibney, Oscar-winning documentary film director, will speak about his work following a screening of his 2008 film, "Gonzo: The Life and Works of Hunter S. Thompson" (2008) on Friday, April 24, 2009 at 7:00 p.m. [NOTE EARLY START TIME] in Page Hall, 135 Western Avenue, on the University at Albany's downtown campus. Earlier that same day at 4:15 p.m., Gibney will offer an informal seminar on documentary filmmaking in Science Library 340 on the uptown campus. Prior to Gibney's appearance, the Writers Institute will also screen two of his critically-acclaimed films: "Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room" (2005), on Wednesday, April 22 at 7:30 p.m. in Page Hall on the downtown campus; and "Taxi to the Dark Side" (2007), on Thursday, April 23 at 7:30 p.m. in the same location. The events are free and open to the public.

In addition to the films that will be shown (see schedule below), Gibney also directed "The Trials of Henry Kissinger" (2002), and is currently at work on "Freakonomics" (2009), based on the bestseller by Steven Levitt and Stephen Dubner. Gibney served as executive producer for the Iraqi war documentary "No End in Sight" (2007), an Academy Award contender.
wildcrane at 5/31/2009 17:39 快速引用
Taxi to the Dark Side
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Taxi to the Dark Side

Theatrical release poster
Directed by Alex Gibney
Produced by Alex Gibney, Eva Orner, Susannah Shipman
Written by Alex Gibney
Starring Karyn Plonsky, Moazzam Begg, Willie Brand, Jack Cloonan, Damien M. Corsetti, Ken Davis, Carlotta Gall, Tim Golden, Tony Lagouranis, Carl Levin, Alfred W. McCoy, Alberto J. Mora, Anthony Morden, Glendale C. Walls, Lawrence Wilkerson, Tim Wilner, John Yoo
Music by Ivor Guest, Robert Logan
Editing by Sloane Klevin
Distributed by THINKFilm
Release date(s) April 30, 2007
Running time 106 min.
Language English
Taxi to the Dark Side is a 2007 documentary film directed by American filmmaker Alex Gibney, and produced by Eva Orner and Susannah Shipman, which won the 2007 Academy Award for Documentary Feature.[1]

The film focuses on the murder in custody of an Afghan taxi driver named Dilawar.[2] Dilawar was beaten to death by American soldiers while being held in extrajudicial detention at the Bagram Air Base.

Taxi to the Dark Side also goes on to examine America's policy on torture and interrogation in general, specifically the CIA's use of torture and their research into sensory deprivation. There is description of the opposition to the use of torture from its political and military opponents, as well as the defense of such methods; the attempts by Congress to uphold the standards of the Geneva Convention forbidding torture; and the popularization of the use of torture techniques in shows such as 24.

The film is part of the Why Democracy? series, which consists of ten documentary films from around the world questioning and examining contemporary democracy. As part of the series Taxi to the Dark Side was broadcast over 30 different countries around the world between the 8th and 18th of October 2007. The BBC cut their broadcast down to 79 minutes.

The film is said to be the first film to contain images taken within Bagram Air Base.

Contents [hide]
1 Release
2 Critical reception and awards
3 Controversies and legal disputes
4 See also
5 References
6 External links



[edit] Release
On April 28, 2007, the film premiered at the Tribeca Film Festival in New York.[3]

In an interview with Beckey Bright of the Wall Street Journal Gibney was asked about the demoralizing effect his film might have on the American GIs:[3]

Beckey Bright: What impact do you think the film will have? Do you think the movie will be demoralizing for members of the military and their families?
Gibney: I hope not to have an impact on morale. The military felt it had clear guidelines that were being fiddled with and undermined by civilian leadership. It's up to officers to instill guidelines and it's up to leadership to ensure guidelines are being followed.


[edit] Critical reception and awards
The film appeared on some critics' top ten lists of the best films of 2008. Premiere magazine named it the 5th best film of 2008[4], and Bill White of the Seattle Post-Intelligencer named it the 7th best film of 2008.[4] The film is also scored 100% for critic approval, out of 80 reviews, on Rotten Tomatoes, and is the third highest-rated film on the website's history. [5]


In November 2007, Taxi to the Dark Side was named by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences as one of 15 films on its documentary feature Oscar shortlist.[6][7] On February 24, 2008, in his acceptance speech for the "Best Documentary Feature" Academy Award, Alex Gibney said:


This is dedicated to two people who are no longer with us, Dilawar, the young Afghan taxi driver, and my father, a navy interrogator who urged me to make this film because of his fury about what was being done to the rule of law. Let’s hope we can turn this country around, move away from the dark side and back to the light.[8]


[edit] Controversies and legal disputes
In June 2007, the Discovery Channel bought the rights to broadcast Taxi to the Dark Side. However, in February 2008, they made public their intention never to broadcast the documentary due to its controversial nature.[9] HBO then bought rights to the film and announced that it would be broadcast in September 2008, after which the Discovery Channel announced it would broadcast Taxi to the Dark Side in 2009.

On June 19, 2008, Alex Gibney's company filed for arbitration, arguing that THINKFilm failed to properly distribute and promote the film.[10][11] He is suing for over a million dollars in damages. He stated that the film has only grossed $280,000.
wildcrane at 5/31/2009 17:53 快速引用
警告: 害怕的慎入. I have no intention to ruin your good day.



http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Mancow-Takes-on-Waterboarding-and-Loses.html

想要知道美国人看完这个纪录片的反映:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/blog/2009/05/two_administrations_torture_an.html#comments
wildcrane at 5/31/2009 18:19 快速引用
如何处理这件事将是对奥巴马的一个严重考验.

一方面, 他想支撑美国宪法, 还有他佩服的杰佛
wildcrane at 5/31/2009 18:57 快速引用
obm is bush minus the courage of telling the truth.
xiaoqiang at 5/31/2009 19:24 快速引用
xiaoqiang :
obm is bush minus the courage of telling the truth.


you can choose not to like obm.

but Bush is more than a lier + 流氓恶棍 + 罪犯
他说着谎话把别人家的孩子送到前线送命, 为了一场他自己清楚的知道是为了自己的战争, his torture i think is part of the plan to force 'conviction' and so that he had something to prove that the war was a war against "terror" - but it's not - and i believe the truth on this will come out in the future too.

there is nothing you could convince me to give this man credit. 这样的人是罪恶的源泉.
wildcrane at 5/31/2009 19:31 快速引用
Obm wants to move on, and disappointed many people.

这件事到底会怎么样, 可能能看出美国media and journalists influence on the public - and the actions of the public. Can it become a strong force that will be out of Obm's control/intention?
wildcrane at 5/31/2009 19:48 快速引用
I wish obm the best. He is trying to do something impossible.

He was elected based on something that he promised, which is something impossible.
xiaoqiang at 5/31/2009 20:19 快速引用
xiaoqiang :
I wish obm the best. He is trying to do something impossible.

He was elected based on something that he promised, which is something impossible.


I totally agree that he probably could not turn the course on many important fronts as he hoped.

But I think he knows his limitation and that's why he chosea more middle way to set up his base first. But then he can get currupted during this course by power.

If he is clear and doesn't get astray, he probably will try to set up some fundation for future changes - some initial steps for future change. However, on this front, the continuity is often broken when different party takes over.

and to keep continuity across party line is probably another thing he hopes to achieve - it is impossible too.
wildcrane at 5/31/2009 20:33 快速引用
The Bill Moyers' is on now on PBS World.
wildcrane at 5/31/2009 21:07 快速引用
obm is certainly set this country up for something big.

祝你好运
xiaoqiang at 5/31/2009 21:19 快速引用
xiaoqiang :
obm is certainly set this country up for something big.

祝你好运


That i am not sure - except he is quick in appointing people on his healthcare reform team. But he certianly has already started changing the international view about America, and has already boosted some confidence .
wildcrane at 5/31/2009 21:35 快速引用
GM bankcruptcy will be anounced early tomorrow morning....
simple at 5/31/2009 22:28 快速引用
simple :
GM bankcruptcy will be anounced early tomorrow morning....


Why bankcrupcy also requires 30 billion from tax payer's money?

If it can be leaner, stronger and greener as some people expect, that sounds not good.

The Federal Government will be the big owner. Actually we are who simply have not much say.

Some people think the government went too far by adding a political agenda. What do you think?

From listensing to the NPR and people from Detroit GM talk, I really 支持自由资本主义. 应该让市场决定他们的成败, 他们竟然还认为自己是美国最大的汽车制造 (认为如果不好, 为什么是第一), 只是这个国家早已经不是自由资本主义了. 过去的供需平衡, 已经变成人为的供刺激虚假需求, 自然不可能维持. 从一个自然主义者的角度, 这样的资本主义对自然的危害太大.

如果不能回到自由资本主义, 剩下的选择有什么呢?
wildcrane at 6/01/2009 00:13 快速引用
wildcrane :
xiaoqiang :
obm is bush minus the courage of telling the truth.


you can choose not to like obm.

but Bush is more than a lier + 流氓恶棍 + 罪犯
他说着谎话把别人家的孩子送到前线送命, 为了一场他自己清楚的知道是为了自己的战争, his torture i think is part of the plan to force 'conviction' and so that he had something to prove that the war was a war against "terror" - but it's not - and i believe the truth on this will come out in the future too.

there is nothing you could convince me to give this man credit. 这样的人是罪恶的源泉.


support support
Luanne at 6/01/2009 17:55 快速引用
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