Suprem Court's Healthcare ruling today 6/28/2012 11:06
难道大家不关心吗?

John Roberts got my 牛 today. If there is one thing that Bush did right, it is that he 选对了首席大法官。This country needs such man of principle.


我觉得今天 O 是最 surprise 的。
Why do you care about it??
pompano at 6/28/2012 12:20 快速引用
..
MorningMoon at 6/28/2012 12:30 快速引用
What is really mean to us? Health care cost goes up to down?
I heard someone start to concern shut down the business, then unemployed rate will go up, and market will go down.
xqh05 at 6/28/2012 12:55 快速引用
That's great. Let them go out of the business, so better ones can emerge.

xqh05 :
What is really mean to us? Health care cost goes up to down?
I heard someone start to concern shut down the business, then unemployed rate will go up, and market will go down.
xiaoqiang at 6/28/2012 12:56 快速引用
It is about the future of this country.

pompano :
Why do you care about it??
xiaoqiang at 6/28/2012 12:56 快速引用
Which direction of the future??

xiaoqiang :
It is about the future of this country.

pompano :
Why do you care about it??
pompano at 6/28/2012 12:59 快速引用
I thought ObamaCare will lower the average cost for healthcare, and it can save business $$... Isn't it that's the case?

xqh05 :
What is really mean to us? Health care cost goes up to down?
I heard someone start to concern shut down the business, then unemployed rate will go up, and market will go down.
pompano at 6/28/2012 13:00 快速引用
One step closer to the single payer system, the one that Canada and most EU countries have.

pompano :
Which direction of the future??

xiaoqiang :
It is about the future of this country.

pompano :
Why do you care about it??
xiaoqiang at 6/28/2012 13:02 快速引用
Wall Street market is downing now
xqh05 at 6/28/2012 13:06 快速引用
O is a joke. He is surprised that the chief justice casts a yes vote. Now he has nothing to "fight" for to get re-elected.

pompano :
I thought ObamaCare will lower the average cost for healthcare, and it can save business $$... Isn't it that's the case?

xqh05 :
What is really mean to us? Health care cost goes up to down?
I heard someone start to concern shut down the business, then unemployed rate will go up, and market will go down.
xiaoqiang at 6/28/2012 13:06 快速引用
That's great. They should have gone bankrupted in 2009. The recovery has been delayed for 3 years because of O's bail out and Ben's printing.

xqh05 :
Wall Street market is downing now
xiaoqiang at 6/28/2012 13:08 快速引用
..
MorningMoon at 6/28/2012 13:08 快速引用
无论如何,Obama的政策水平,应该不会有人怀疑了。
rogerlee at 6/28/2012 13:08 快速引用
pompano :
I thought ObamaCare will lower the average cost for healthcare, and it can save business $$... Isn't it that's the case?

xqh05 :
What is really mean to us? Health care cost goes up to down?
I heard someone start to concern shut down the business, then unemployed rate will go up, and market will go down.


这怎么可能呢? 任何时候政府干涉business, 都只会让cost增加.

今天market也跌的很明显, 显然market不喜欢这个决定.
breezy at 6/28/2012 13:12 快速引用
Healthcare 不应该是 business. The healthcare "business" creates very little value-added to either the doctors or the general public. In this specific case, it is debatable which one is worse, the gov or the healthcare "business". My guess is, a lot of these "business people" will go back to the gov to be politicians again.

breezy :
pompano :
I thought ObamaCare will lower the average cost for healthcare, and it can save business $$... Isn't it that's the case?

xqh05 :
What is really mean to us? Health care cost goes up to down?
I heard someone start to concern shut down the business, then unemployed rate will go up, and market will go down.


这怎么可能呢? 任何时候政府干涉business, 都只会让cost增加.

今天market也跌的很明显, 显然market不喜欢这个决定.
xiaoqiang at 6/28/2012 13:14 快速引用
本届选举一下子变得有意思起来。

rogerlee :
无论如何,Obama的政策水平,应该不会有人怀疑了。
xiaoqiang at 6/28/2012 13:16 快速引用
这个,今天的跌是和一季度GDP以及失业数据有关吧。。。 而且,欧洲股市今早跌得很凶。。

breezy :
pompano :
I thought ObamaCare will lower the average cost for healthcare, and it can save business $$... Isn't it that's the case?

xqh05 :
What is really mean to us? Health care cost goes up to down?
I heard someone start to concern shut down the business, then unemployed rate will go up, and market will go down.


这怎么可能呢? 任何时候政府干涉business, 都只会让cost增加.

今天market也跌的很明显, 显然market不喜欢这个决定.
pompano at 6/28/2012 13:18 快速引用
xiaoqing 投睡的票?

xiaoqiang :
本届选举一下子变得有意思起来。

rogerlee :
无论如何,Obama的政策水平,应该不会有人怀疑了。
pompano at 6/28/2012 13:19 快速引用
xiaoqiang :
Healthcare 不应该是 business. The healthcare "business" creates very little value-added to either the doctors or the general public. In this specific case, it is debatable which one is worse, the gov or the healthcare "business". My guess is, a lot of these "business people" will go back to the gov to be politicians again.


不是说50人以上的公司强制要给员工买医疗保险吗? 这就是干涉了business. 人家不杀人放火不偷鸡摸狗, 管人家买不买医疗保险啊.
breezy at 6/28/2012 13:20 快速引用
当然是 Romney. He will repeal Ocare and replace it with the single payer system. That's probably going to take him 8 years to get the job done.

I hope the stupid camp within the R party does not do stupid things to get O re-elected.

pompano :
xiaoqing 投睡的票?

xiaoqiang :
本届选举一下子变得有意思起来。

rogerlee :
无论如何,Obama的政策水平,应该不会有人怀疑了。
xiaoqiang at 6/28/2012 13:22 快速引用
Chief Justice 在 opinion 里面说的比较清楚,这是 tax increase,不是 gov regulation 干涉 business.

breezy :
xiaoqiang :
Healthcare 不应该是 business. The healthcare "business" creates very little value-added to either the doctors or the general public. In this specific case, it is debatable which one is worse, the gov or the healthcare "business". My guess is, a lot of these "business people" will go back to the gov to be politicians again.


不是说50人以上的公司强制要给员工买医疗保险吗? 这就是干涉了business. 人家不杀人放火不偷鸡摸狗, 管人家买不买医疗保险啊.
xiaoqiang at 6/28/2012 13:24 快速引用
pompano :
这个,今天的跌是和一季度GDP以及失业数据有关吧。。。 而且,欧洲股市今早跌得很凶。。



可今天经济版的头条是obamcare, 不是gdp和失业数字啊.

但我有个感觉是这决定对Romney有利.....直觉.
breezy at 6/28/2012 13:25 快速引用
The O care drama is over.

Next comes the Big Ben.
xiaoqiang at 6/28/2012 13:27 快速引用
If it would 8 years, he would likely not make it.

I hope R do better than he did.


xiaoqiang :
当然是 Romney. He will repeal Ocare and replace it with the single payer system. That's probably going to take him 8 years to get the job done.

I hope the stupid camp within the R party does not do stupid things to get O re-elected.

pompano :
xiaoqing 投睡的票?

xiaoqiang :
本届选举一下子变得有意思起来。

rogerlee :
无论如何,Obama的政策水平,应该不会有人怀疑了。
rogerlee at 6/28/2012 13:31 快速引用
Don't just read the news. The news reporting is a big business itself...


breezy :
pompano :
这个,今天的跌是和一季度GDP以及失业数据有关吧。。。 而且,欧洲股市今早跌得很凶。。



可今天经济版的头条是obamcare, 不是gdp和失业数字啊.

但我有个感觉是这决定对Romney有利.....直觉.
pompano at 6/28/2012 13:50 快速引用
pompano :
Don't just read the news. The news reporting is a big business itself...


breezy :
pompano :
这个,今天的跌是和一季度GDP以及失业数据有关吧。。。 而且,欧洲股市今早跌得很凶。。



可今天经济版的头条是obamcare, 不是gdp和失业数字啊.

但我有个感觉是这决定对Romney有利.....直觉.


You are right. The news reporting is geared toward making more money by attracting more readers. Obviously more readers care about Obamcare than about GDP, at least today. smile
breezy at 6/28/2012 13:56 快速引用
胡度了,obama care 不就是romey care 吗?Romey 还能选上?
Mayrain at 6/28/2012 15:49 快速引用
生命太重要了
[/quote]

You are right. The news reporting is geared toward making more money by attracting more readers. Obviously more readers care about Obamcare than about GDP, at least today. smile[/quote]
Mayrain at 6/28/2012 15:54 快速引用
希望 Romney 还能选上,否则 bush 就要第四次连任了。

只要 Romney focus on firing Big Ben, 他还是大有希望的。Ocare 的关键是如何找 funding。

Mayrain :
胡度了,obama care 不就是romey care 吗?Romey 还能选上?
xiaoqiang at 6/28/2012 16:02 快速引用
How can Bush get 第四次连任?

Are you talking about Jeb Bush?

xiaoqiang :
希望 Romney 还能选上,否则 bush 就要第四次连任了。

只要 Romney focus on firing Big Ben, 他还是大有希望的。Ocare 的关键是如何找 funding。

Mayrain :
胡度了,obama care 不就是romey care 吗?Romey 还能选上?
pompano at 6/28/2012 16:42 快速引用
O is Bush's 化身。He continues with every bad policy that Bush enacted, then some.

pompano :
How can Bush get 第四次连任?

Are you talking about Jeb Bush?

xiaoqiang :
希望 Romney 还能选上,否则 bush 就要第四次连任了。

只要 Romney focus on firing Big Ben, 他还是大有希望的。Ocare 的关键是如何找 funding。

Mayrain :
胡度了,obama care 不就是romey care 吗?Romey 还能选上?
xiaoqiang at 6/28/2012 16:55 快速引用
That's a very interesting theory...

xiaoqiang :
O is Bush's 化身。He continues with every bad policy that Bush enacted, then some.

pompano :
How can Bush get 第四次连任?

Are you talking about Jeb Bush?

xiaoqiang :
希望 Romney 还能选上,否则 bush 就要第四次连任了。

只要 Romney focus on firing Big Ben, 他还是大有希望的。Ocare 的关键是如何找 funding。

Mayrain :
胡度了,obama care 不就是romey care 吗?Romey 还能选上?
pompano at 6/28/2012 18:14 快速引用
R最好别这么做,不然会跟麦肯一样。

xiaoqiang :
希望 Romney 还能选上,否则 bush 就要第四次连任了。

只要 Romney focus on firing Big Ben, 他还是大有希望的。Ocare 的关键是如何找 funding。

Mayrain :
胡度了,obama care 不就是romey care 吗?Romey 还能选上?
rogerlee at 6/28/2012 20:16 快速引用
这个怎么解释?

rogerlee :
R最好别这么做,不然会跟麦肯一样。

xiaoqiang :
希望 Romney 还能选上,否则 bush 就要第四次连任了。

只要 Romney focus on firing Big Ben, 他还是大有希望的。Ocare 的关键是如何找 funding。

Mayrain :
胡度了,obama care 不就是romey care 吗?Romey 还能选上?
pompano at 6/28/2012 21:48 快速引用
很简单,有些东西,不是能随便否定得了的,比如医改。花力气恶战在这些方面,不但不可能击败Obama,反而说明自己没能力,麦肯就是这样。


pompano :
这个怎么解释?

rogerlee :
R最好别这么做,不然会跟麦肯一样。

xiaoqiang :
希望 Romney 还能选上,否则 bush 就要第四次连任了。

只要 Romney focus on firing Big Ben, 他还是大有希望的。Ocare 的关键是如何找 funding。

Mayrain :
胡度了,obama care 不就是romey care 吗?Romey 还能选上?
rogerlee at 6/29/2012 12:37 快速引用
Wait until Fed interest rate rises from 0 to 2% and core inflation rises above 5% later this year or early next year, and you will see Big Ben got removed in disgrace even if O get re-elected.

祝你好运


rogerlee :
很简单,有些东西,不是能随便否定得了的,比如医改。花力气恶战在这些方面,不但不可能击败Obama,反而说明自己没能力,麦肯就是这样。


pompano :
这个怎么解释?

rogerlee :
R最好别这么做,不然会跟麦肯一样。

xiaoqiang :
希望 Romney 还能选上,否则 bush 就要第四次连任了。

只要 Romney focus on firing Big Ben, 他还是大有希望的。Ocare 的关键是如何找 funding。

Mayrain :
胡度了,obama care 不就是romey care 吗?Romey 还能选上?
xiaoqiang at 6/29/2012 13:52 快速引用
Both R&D lost a cause to root for their election camping yesterday.

Now they need to get back to the real issues. This is good for the country.
xiaoqiang at 6/29/2012 13:56 快速引用
Impossible.


xiaoqiang :
Wait until Fed interest rate rises from 0 to 2% and core inflation rises above 5% later this year or early next year, and you will see Big Ben got removed in disgrace even if O get re-elected.

祝你好运


rogerlee :
很简单,有些东西,不是能随便否定得了的,比如医改。花力气恶战在这些方面,不但不可能击败Obama,反而说明自己没能力,麦肯就是这样。


pompano :
这个怎么解释?

rogerlee :
R最好别这么做,不然会跟麦肯一样。

xiaoqiang :
希望 Romney 还能选上,否则 bush 就要第四次连任了。

只要 Romney focus on firing Big Ben, 他还是大有希望的。Ocare 的关键是如何找 funding。

Mayrain :
胡度了,obama care 不就是romey care 吗?Romey 还能选上?
rogerlee at 6/29/2012 14:53 快速引用
oil jumps 9% today. The movement will be non-linear. Most of the time it is a bad idea to project the near past into the future. That's what Bush did when he proposed tax cut based on budget projection.

祝你好运 祝你好运 祝你好运



rogerlee :
Impossible.


xiaoqiang :
Wait until Fed interest rate rises from 0 to 2% and core inflation rises above 5% later this year or early next year, and you will see Big Ben got removed in disgrace even if O get re-elected.

祝你好运


rogerlee :
很简单,有些东西,不是能随便否定得了的,比如医改。花力气恶战在这些方面,不但不可能击败Obama,反而说明自己没能力,麦肯就是这样。


pompano :
这个怎么解释?

rogerlee :
R最好别这么做,不然会跟麦肯一样。

xiaoqiang :
希望 Romney 还能选上,否则 bush 就要第四次连任了。

只要 Romney focus on firing Big Ben, 他还是大有希望的。Ocare 的关键是如何找 funding。

Mayrain :
胡度了,obama care 不就是romey care 吗?Romey 还能选上?
xiaoqiang at 6/29/2012 15:44 快速引用
What's the good idea you think to do it?


xiaoqiang :
oil jumps 9% today. The movement will be non-linear. Most of the time it is a bad idea to project the near past into the future. That's what Bush did when he proposed tax cut based on budget projection.

祝你好运 祝你好运 祝你好运



rogerlee :
Impossible.


xiaoqiang :
Wait until Fed interest rate rises from 0 to 2% and core inflation rises above 5% later this year or early next year, and you will see Big Ben got removed in disgrace even if O get re-elected.

祝你好运


rogerlee :
很简单,有些东西,不是能随便否定得了的,比如医改。花力气恶战在这些方面,不但不可能击败Obama,反而说明自己没能力,麦肯就是这样。


pompano :
这个怎么解释?

rogerlee :
R最好别这么做,不然会跟麦肯一样。

xiaoqiang :
希望 Romney 还能选上,否则 bush 就要第四次连任了。

只要 Romney focus on firing Big Ben, 他还是大有希望的。Ocare 的关键是如何找 funding。

Mayrain :
胡度了,obama care 不就是romey care 吗?Romey 还能选上?
rogerlee at 6/29/2012 16:58 快速引用
Let irresponsible people/company/country go bankrupt and suffer, so that responsible people/company/country can stop being punished, and have a chance to succeed.

This process is overdue for three years.

rogerlee :
What's the good idea you think to do it?


xiaoqiang :
oil jumps 9% today. The movement will be non-linear. Most of the time it is a bad idea to project the near past into the future. That's what Bush did when he proposed tax cut based on budget projection.

祝你好运 祝你好运 祝你好运



rogerlee :
Impossible.


xiaoqiang :
Wait until Fed interest rate rises from 0 to 2% and core inflation rises above 5% later this year or early next year, and you will see Big Ben got removed in disgrace even if O get re-elected.

祝你好运


rogerlee :
很简单,有些东西,不是能随便否定得了的,比如医改。花力气恶战在这些方面,不但不可能击败Obama,反而说明自己没能力,麦肯就是这样。


pompano :
这个怎么解释?

rogerlee :
R最好别这么做,不然会跟麦肯一样。

xiaoqiang :
希望 Romney 还能选上,否则 bush 就要第四次连任了。

只要 Romney focus on firing Big Ben, 他还是大有希望的。Ocare 的关键是如何找 funding。

Mayrain :
胡度了,obama care 不就是romey care 吗?Romey 还能选上?
xiaoqiang at 6/29/2012 21:22 快速引用
O and Big Ben and a bunch other pseudo economists are proposing/implementing So&&($lisim, time to put a brake on these guys. You got to weed out enough losers for winner to emerge.
xiaoqiang at 6/29/2012 21:26 快速引用
看成sperm count了 Laughing oops
wildcrane at 6/30/2012 09:44 快速引用
If it's done 3 years ago, AIG bankrupted and then half of banks might bankrupt. You might be jobless and even homeless today.

If that's the story, I would definitely support you to vote for R, who would blame Obama not rescuing those damn banks 3 years ago.


[quote="xiaoqiang"]Let irresponsible people/company/country go bankrupt and suffer, so that responsible people/company/country can stop being punished, and have a chance to succeed.

This process is overdue for three years.

rogerlee :
What's the good idea you think to do it?


xiaoqiang :
oil jumps 9% today. The movement will be non-linear. Most of the time it is a bad idea to project the near past into the future. That's what Bush did when he proposed tax cut based on budget projection.

祝你好运 祝你好运 祝你好运



rogerlee :
Impossible.


xiaoqiang :
Wait until Fed interest rate rises from 0 to 2% and core inflation rises above 5% later this year or early next year, and you will see Big Ben got removed in disgrace even if O get re-elected.

祝你好运

rogerlee at 6/30/2012 12:03 快速引用
You jump a little bit too fast, there is no way anyone can argue with you like this.

I am not talking about logic because people normally don't think in logical ways. I am talking about the apparent discontinuity of common sense.

If AIG goes bankrupted, half of the human beings might have moved to the moon and the sun will rise from the south. Now in that condition, 2+2 = 1 Romney and Big Ben can fly at twice the speed of a hamburger.


Have a good night.




[quote="rogerlee"]If it's done 3 years ago, AIG bankrupted and then half of banks might bankrupt. You might be jobless and even homeless today.

If that's the story, I would definitely support you to vote for R, who would blame Obama not rescuing those damn banks 3 years ago.


xiaoqiang :
Let irresponsible people/company/country go bankrupt and suffer, so that responsible people/company/country can stop being punished, and have a chance to succeed.

This process is overdue for three years.

rogerlee :
What's the good idea you think to do it?


xiaoqiang :
oil jumps 9% today. The movement will be non-linear. Most of the time it is a bad idea to project the near past into the future. That's what Bush did when he proposed tax cut based on budget projection.

祝你好运 祝你好运 祝你好运



rogerlee :
Impossible.


xiaoqiang :
Wait until Fed interest rate rises from 0 to 2% and core inflation rises above 5% later this year or early next year, and you will see Big Ben got removed in disgrace even if O get re-elected.

祝你好运

xiaoqiang at 6/30/2012 23:44 快速引用
[Time : 0.040s | 11 Queries | Memory Usage: 1.18 MB]