听音乐会有感 9/22/2005 01:33
今晚去NEC的Jorden Hall 听爵士乐,同去附庸风雅的的还有好几个网上友人。但没听完大家就退场了。

有俩个人演奏,一个人玩的是打击乐,另一人拉超低音大提琴
音色比较低沉的乐器一般都是稍微有些年纪,有些历炼的人才会聆听的. 不过只听一种音乐的人(古典也好现代也好,青春或者深沉的) 通常个性都比较强烈,好的时候叫坚韧,坏的时候叫偏执.

我碰到一人曾经号称"死也不听" hip-hop 和 R&B, 过了两天我把Macy Grey的一首单曲在msn上发给他, 立刻就破了他的戒. 所以说,世界上没有不能听的音乐,只有你不会发现的音乐.

音乐如此,时尚也是. 如果一个喜欢黑白两色,风格简约的人有一天尝试到了"正确的" (注意,一定是正确的) funky style, 那一天上班路上的意外也许会改变他或她的一生.

如果你用中文说一个人"老于事故", 那一定是对此人有堤防之心; 可是如果西方人说一个女人"sophisticated", 那很有可能是隆重的赞美. 我现在的老板说, 希望我们都有"二十八岁的身体, 十八岁的心, 六十八岁的智力." 人生所以值得留恋, 是因为有太多未知不确定,"你永远不知道下一颗巧克力".

所以, 如果一个人有东方式的大智慧, 懂得用冥想法放松自己, 又有西方式的精密逻辑和探索精神, 那应该是个很完美的 Mix & Match. smile
Ariel at 9/22/2005 06:39 快速引用
Yesterday evening's music is dull indeed, though the setup is interesting in the beginning and I can see the player put a lot effort into the music and his performance.

Miles Davis plays the trumplet, and that's probably why the combination of Miles Davis and yesterday's player sounds great.

Similar to the fact that an infant prefers visually complex pictures, I guess normal people find it easier to enjoy acoustically complicated music, which lead to two conclusions: that we are normal, and that we are still young. smile
Johann at 9/22/2005 09:47 快速引用
Yesterday's music is dull, partly because it's not suitable in the hall. that music is more background when you are doing something relaxablly. I did feel sleepy after listening for a while oops
wanger at 9/22/2005 10:21 快速引用
rose rose Thanks for the information about the concert. I was a little late so I sat upstairs.

I have been to quite a few Jordan Hall performances, this is one of the best!!! It is truly a treat to hear a double base and Vibraphone jamming jazz together.

Jazz is a form of music that was created in the United States at the beginning of the 20th century by various ethnic groups, primarily black musicians in the South. The musical elements of jazz are basically the same as those found in all music: rhythm, melody, harmony and form. What separates jazz from other genres are two important, unique elements: improvisation and a jazz swing feeling.

The improvisation part of Dave Holland on the double-base and Steve Nelson on the vibraphone were extraordinary and unique, that’s why people applauded for appreciation after each improvisation.

For more information about jazz, you can Google ‘jazz music’ to learn more.

Again, thanks wildcrane for the information. 牛 牛
Whitesand at 9/22/2005 10:27 快速引用
wildcrane真是高人 牛
breezy at 9/22/2005 10:33 快速引用
there is kind of leisure in the music.
I had to leave early since I worked in office after that. oops Sad
simple at 9/22/2005 10:41 快速引用
Whitesand :
rose rose Thanks for the information about the concert. I was a little late so I sat upstairs.

I have been to quite a few Jordan Hall performances, this is one of the best!!! It is truly a treat to hear a double base and Vibraphone jamming jazz together.

Jazz is a form of music that was created in the United States at the beginning of the 20th century by various ethnic groups, primarily black musicians in the South. The musical elements of jazz are basically the same as those found in all music: rhythm, melody, harmony and form. What separates jazz from other genres are two important, unique elements: improvisation and a jazz swing feeling.

The improvisation part of Dave Holland on the double-base and Steve Nelson on the vibraphone were extraordinary and unique, that’s why people applauded for appreciation after each improvisation.

For more information about jazz, you can Google ‘jazz music’ to learn more.

Again, thanks wildcrane for the information. 牛 牛


Thank you for your writing - helps me a lot. happy

其实我们走的时候,我感觉正是他们开始很投入地发挥起来的时候。And I begin to feel the improvision, and communications of the two musicians (with humor - is this what you mean by Jazz swing?), and with the audiance. The moment we left was the time that I started to enjoy, and began to get it. And that is probably why the music continued to play in my mind while I was swimming. I guess you are probably the only one who enjoyed the best improvisional part. Tells us more.

We are too impatient that we left early.
wildcrane at 9/22/2005 11:12 快速引用
Ariel :
音色比较低沉的乐器一般都是稍微有些年纪,有些历炼的人才会聆听的. 不过只听一种音乐的人(古典也好现代也好,青春或者深沉的) 通常个性都比较强烈,好的时候叫坚韧,坏的时候叫偏执.

我碰到一人曾经号称"死也不听" hip-hop 和 R&B, 过了两天我把Macy Grey的一首单曲在msn上发给他, 立刻就破了他的戒. 所以说,世界上没有不能听的音乐,只有你不会发现的音乐.

音乐如此,时尚也是. 如果一个喜欢黑白两色,风格简约的人有一天尝试到了"正确的" (注意,一定是正确的) funky style, 那一天上班路上的意外也许会改变他或她的一生.

如果你用中文说一个人"老于事故", 那一定是对此人有堤防之心; 可是如果西方人说一个女人"sophisticated", 那很有可能是隆重的赞美. 我现在的老板说, 希望我们都有"二十八岁的身体, 十八岁的心, 六十八岁的智力." 人生所以值得留恋, 是因为有太多未知不确定,"你永远不知道下一颗巧克力".

所以, 如果一个人有东方式的大智慧, 懂得用冥想法放松自己, 又有西方式的精密逻辑和探索精神, 那应该是个很完美的 Mix & Match. smile


如果一个人有东方式的大智慧, 懂得用冥想法放松自己, 又有西方式的精密逻辑和探索精神, 那应该是个很完美的 Mix & Match.

Good point and I enjoyed reading 牛
wildcrane at 9/22/2005 11:19 快速引用
Ariel :
音色比较低沉的乐器一般都是稍微有些年纪,有些历炼的人才会聆听的. 不过只听一种音乐的人(古典也好现代也好,青春或者深沉的) 通常个性都比较强烈,好的时候叫坚韧,坏的时候叫偏执.

我碰到一人曾经号称"死也不听" hip-hop 和 R&B, 过了两天我把Macy Grey的一首单曲在msn上发给他, 立刻就破了他的戒. 所以说,世界上没有不能听的音乐,只有你不会发现的音乐.

音乐如此,时尚也是. 如果一个喜欢黑白两色,风格简约的人有一天尝试到了"正确的" (注意,一定是正确的) funky style, 那一天上班路上的意外也许会改变他或她的一生.

如果你用中文说一个人"老于事故", 那一定是对此人有堤防之心; 可是如果西方人说一个女人"sophisticated", 那很有可能是隆重的赞美. 我现在的老板说, 希望我们都有"二十八岁的身体, 十八岁的心, 六十八岁的智力." 人生所以值得留恋, 是因为有太多未知不确定,"你永远不知道下一颗巧克力".

所以, 如果一个人有东方式的大智慧, 懂得用冥想法放松自己, 又有西方式的精密逻辑和探索精神, 那应该是个很完美的 Mix & Match. smile


如果一个人有西方式的大智慧, 又有南亚式的精密逻辑和索求精神估计能更完美
有本书叫《Can Asians Think?》,写的挺有意思的。
neeraj at 9/22/2005 11:31 快速引用
your suggestion will keep book club busy for while la happy

neeraj :


如果一个人有西方式的大智慧, 又有南亚式的精密逻辑和索求精神估计能更完美
有本书叫《Can Asians Think?》,写的挺有意思的。
fresh_orange at 9/22/2005 11:55 快速引用
neeraj :


如果一个人有西方式的大智慧, 又有南亚式的精密逻辑和索求精神估计能更完美
有本书叫《Can Asians Think?》,写的挺有意思的。


I checked this book on Amazon and it seems so interesting that I will like to read. Some of the essay titles are some of the subjects I have been interested and thought a lot over the years.

Do you have the book?

Thank you. happy

The following is a review from Amozon website:

Like a fresh breeze of thought, August 28, 2005
Reviewer: Sanjay Agarwal (India) - See all my reviews

I bought the first edition of this book some 4-5 years ago, mainly for its provocative title, and the very obvious Asian face on the cover. Reading the book slowly over a period of two months, across several journeys, I was deeply impressed by the clarity of thought, and the unique perspective that the author offered.

Kishore Madhubani is a career dimplomat, and this shows, particularly in the later editions of the book, which he seems to be using to pursue his policy goal of getting USA to behave more responsibly. To my mind, this is the only shortcoming in an otherwise excellent book. The later editions (such as this) include some new essays, and some of the original ones have been removed.

The book is structured as a collection of essays, based on talks or articles which Madhubani gave or wrote over a period of time. However, this does not affect the quality of the book adversely, as his perspective remains unchanged, though evolving.

'Can Asians Think' helped give me a new perspective on the differences between the East and the West. It also helped me work out that the Western way was not the only one, and it may also not be totally and automatically relevant in East. We therefore need to go back and think how (and in what conditions) a particular Western solution emerged, before accepting it or evaluating it. This is particularly important, as there is a kind of 'thought imperialism' generated by the publishing industry in the West, which tends to swamp out non-Western ways of thinking. The strong publishing industry has also resulted in commercialisation of the intellect across the modern world, which may not be such a good thing for the future of the world.

Typically for an Eastern mind, Kishore Madhubani does not quote statistics or studies in support of his arguments. Not being tied down by the need to prove the validity of his arguments, he is able to develop and put across his perspective with ease. This also allows the reader to take him as a trusted friend rather than an intellectual adversary. (Read and compare The Geography of Thought by Nisbett to see what I mean in terms of writing style). Also the book is full of insights. I particularly recommend the Ten Heresies of journalism (An Asian Perspective on Human Rights and Freedom of the Press). Another gem on population control (Asian Hordes) is contained The Dangers of Decadence: What the Rest Can Teach the West.

All in all, a good book, and one that deserves the popularity it has achieved.

Kishore has now come out with a revised edition: Can Asians Think - Understanding the Divide between East and West.
wildcrane at 9/22/2005 12:05 快速引用
fresh_orange :
your suggestion will keep book club busy for while la happy

neeraj :


如果一个人有西方式的大智慧, 又有南亚式的精密逻辑和索求精神估计能更完美
有本书叫《Can Asians Think?》,写的挺有意思的。


好书太多,时间太少 frustrated
我的wishlist已经很长很长了
mushroom at 9/22/2005 12:44 快速引用
我觉得Whitesand 更 牛

breezy :
wildcrane真是高人 牛
Johann at 9/22/2005 12:46 快速引用
Improvisation is really the key for jazz.

Jazz music apeals to me in two movies: "The Terminal" and "Collateral". Both of them have trumplet or Saxphone in the band.

Regarding yesterday's jazz I can only say that I have heard better ones.

It seems people do have different taste. I have only listened to two live performance of jazz music so far, and I like neither of them. I don't belong to this camp I guess. frustrated



Whitesand :
rose rose Thanks for the information about the concert. I was a little late so I sat upstairs.

I have been to quite a few Jordan Hall performances, this is one of the best!!! It is truly a treat to hear a double base and Vibraphone jamming jazz together.

Jazz is a form of music that was created in the United States at the beginning of the 20th century by various ethnic groups, primarily black musicians in the South. The musical elements of jazz are basically the same as those found in all music: rhythm, melody, harmony and form. What separates jazz from other genres are two important, unique elements: improvisation and a jazz swing feeling.

The improvisation part of Dave Holland on the double-base and Steve Nelson on the vibraphone were extraordinary and unique, that’s why people applauded for appreciation after each improvisation.

For more information about jazz, you can Google ‘jazz music’ to learn more.

Again, thanks wildcrane for the information. 牛 牛
Johann at 9/22/2005 12:53 快速引用
I will challenge your statement here. wink

你想想,whitesand 是不是就有点甘愿当‘配角’的性格?其次,他从中西部来,and is still new and short in Boston, and I guess he has not picked up the speed of Boston yet. 如果我的分析对的话,这Jass正适合他的性格和他的节奏 - 那他岂不是活生生提供了一个例证? Laughing

当然我这是在开玩笑,别当真。我的文章里没有明确写出来的是,我以为一个人还需要幽默感才能真正体会到 Jazz 的风格。
rose


Johann :
我觉得Whitesand 更 牛

breezy :
wildcrane真是高人 牛
wildcrane at 9/22/2005 12:54 快速引用
[quote="Johann"]我觉得Whitesand 更 牛

[/quote]



俺是文盲,英文的贴子俺很少读. oops
不过让你一推荐,俺只好读了.Whitesand的确很牛. 牛
breezy at 9/22/2005 12:56 快速引用
[quote="Johann"]Improvisation is really the key for jazz.

Jazz music apeals to me in two movies: "The Terminal" and "Collateral". Both of them have trumplet or Saxphone in the band.

Regarding yesterday's jazz I can only say that I have heard better ones.

It seems people do have different taste. I have only listened to two live performance of jazz music so far, and I like neither of them. I don't belong to this camp I guess. frustrated

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harvard sq 的hotel有个什么...jazz bar,俺去过一次,好极了. 牛
berkley performance center有过jazz concert,也很好.
breezy at 9/22/2005 12:59 快速引用
breezy :
Johann :
Improvisation is really the key for jazz.

Jazz music apeals to me in two movies: "The Terminal" and "Collateral". Both of them have trumplet or Saxphone in the band.

Regarding yesterday's jazz I can only say that I have heard better ones.

It seems people do have different taste. I have only listened to two live performance of jazz music so far, and I like neither of them. I don't belong to this camp I guess. frustrated



harvard sq 的hotel有个什么...jazz bar,俺去过一次,好极了. 牛
berkley performance center有过jazz concert,也很好.


我也听说过,但没去过,好像是在MIT附近。你能给咱问出来不?咱下次去?
wildcrane at 9/22/2005 13:01 快速引用
我觉得 New England 的 jazz 和 New Orleans 的 jazz 有很大区别。好多人把它们混为一谈。


听 jazz 需要有个气氛,在几个 drink 之后感觉会好一些,可能酒精能提高人对jazz的节奏和低音的感受。


wildcrane :
I will challenge your statement here. wink

你想想,whitesand 是不是就有点甘愿当‘配角’的性格?其次,他从中西部来,and is still new and short in Boston, and I guess he has not picked up the speed of Boston yet. 如果我的分析对的话,这Jass正适合他的性格和他的节奏 - 那他岂不是活生生提供了一个例证? Laughing

当然我这是在开玩笑,别当真。我的文章里没有明确写出来的是,我以为一个人还需要幽默感才能真正体会到 Jazz 的风格。
rose


Johann :
我觉得Whitesand 更 牛

breezy :
wildcrane真是高人 牛
Johann at 9/22/2005 13:02 快速引用
Johann :
听 jazz 需要有个气氛,在几个 drink 之后感觉会好一些,可能酒精能提高人对jazz的节奏和低音的感受。


Agree! Laughing
俺也
peachleaf at 9/22/2005 13:07 快速引用
完全同意 happy support
而且我找到了,Best Jazz Bar in Boston. It is in the Charles Hotel. happy happy happy happy
怎么样找个日子去?我觉得星期五7:30就听好,听完了去跳舞?

http://www.regattabarjazz.com/

http://getshowtix.com/regattabar/index.shtml

可是今晚的Trio 就让人觉得不忍错过啊! 怎么办? Surprised

"No one in the mainstream is playing more freely than this trio."
- Boston Phoenix

"A bold example of the musicological rethinking of jazz."
- Ben Ratliff, New York Times

"A compelling collection of rhythms and textures."
- Don Heckman, Los Angeles Times




peachleaf :
Johann :
听 jazz 需要有个气氛,在几个 drink 之后感觉会好一些,可能酒精能提高人对jazz的节奏和低音的感受。


Agree! Laughing
俺也
wildcrane at 9/22/2005 13:17 快速引用
[quote="wildcrane"]

我也听说过,但没去过,好像是在MIT附近。你能给咱问出来不?咱下次去?[/quote]

俺说的那个是在harvard附近.俺的确是喝了一杯鸡尾酒心情不错的时候听的.
http://www.regattabarjazz.com/
breezy at 9/22/2005 13:22 快速引用
莫要这周五去啊,俺要去jazz festival的,在Boston, 室外的活动.
breezy at 9/22/2005 13:24 快速引用
wildcrane :
完全同意 happy support
而且我找到了,Best Jazz Bar in Boston. It is in the Charles Hotel. happy happy happy happy
怎么样找个日子去?我觉得星期五7:30就听好,听完了去跳舞?


peachleaf at 9/22/2005 14:38 快速引用
wildcrane :
.......慢慢地放松下来,脑子里的事也渐渐放下了。这时候我对刚刚听的音乐又有了一点新感受。其实如果我们心里不急的话,那音乐原本是非常美而令人放松的音乐...... 音乐裹着你却不侵犯打搅你,难道不是一件最惬意的事吗?
......
突然就明白了什么是low key......


rose rose rose
我之于double base and Vibraphone,就象牛之于琴。大部分时间,我的注意力不在音乐上。
觉得这种超低音节奏单一的音乐好,很好的背景音乐。我坐在那儿,完全不受音乐的distract,全神贯注地思考我的project,想通两个问题想出一个idea,把要做的presentation的内容go through了一遍,顺便把我妹妹来之后的schedule都在脑子里安排好了。

BTW, if you go to the best jazz bar in Boston on the first Friday evening of Oct, both my sister and I would like to join you smile
Greentea at 9/22/2005 15:06 快速引用
there are many Jazz bars in Boston. I think it doesn't matter how good/famous it is, but just a kind of music, relax and let thought fly.
what you think is what you get, aroused by music. jazz, blue, classical, doesn't matter. I still remember first time when I came out jazz bar, my friend said, oh, we should have listened to some classical music... I was surprised..why?
you look classical.....
my answer is, I would like to hear all kinds of music.

I still have my favorite, though. it's not jazz.
simple at 9/22/2005 18:30 快速引用
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