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[quote="了因"][quote="xiaoqiang"]“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.” ― Alexis de Tocqueville[/quote] 美国这游戏能玩得比较长，是因为不断有外来金融补贴了，基本上每十年一次大补，平常一直小补。 现在如果在地球上玩不转了，可能下一步还可以去天堂找补贴。 :lol: :lol: 地球上的人类阶段性末日，可能就是因为这个原因才来的吧，因为天堂伤不起啊。[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">作者</th> <th class="thCornerR">留言</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Quincy08</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="帖子" title="帖子" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">发表于: 2/24/2012 22:42<span class="gen"> </span> 发表主题: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">我看1%的人也没没什么可骂的，他们在全世界捞钱，使得53%的人有税交，46%的人被养活。关键是捞到的钱周转回来太慢，甚至呆在外面不回来。</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Quincy08</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="帖子" title="帖子" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">发表于: 2/24/2012 22:30<span class="gen"> </span> 发表主题: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>开会 写到:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">失业率8%，领救济的怎么可能有42%？嘻嘻</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />领失业金和领救济不同，根据统计局的数字，贫困人口在2010年是15.1%， 领food stamp 的家庭有11.9%。</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>rogerlee</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="帖子" title="帖子" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">发表于: 2/24/2012 19:16<span class="gen"> </span> 发表主题: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>开会 写到:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">总而言之，想指着别人鼻子说别人没缴税的，请先把W2表上第3格的数字直接填到1040表上第43格报税，然后才有资格批评。 <br /> <br />我知道这句话只有少数人能看明白里面的各种算术项目，只讲结果不讲过程是不好的。等哪天有时间了再细细讲吧，嘻嘻。我拿俩大拇指摁那么多汉字出来我容易么我</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br /> <br /> <img src="images/smiles/smilie_approve.gif" alt="牛" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>开会</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="帖子" title="帖子" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">发表于: 2/24/2012 18:27<span class="gen"> </span> 发表主题: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">总而言之，想指着别人鼻子说别人没缴税的，请先把W2表上第3格的数字直接填到1040表上第43格报税，然后才有资格批评。 <br /> <br />我知道这句话只有少数人能看明白里面的各种算术项目，只讲结果不讲过程是不好的。等哪天有时间了再细细讲吧，嘻嘻。我拿俩大拇指摁那么多汉字出来我容易么我</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>开会</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="帖子" title="帖子" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">发表于: 2/24/2012 18:08<span class="gen"> </span> 发表主题: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>xiaoqiang 写到:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">不缴税的人和1%的人是一伙的。</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />我写的第二条里已经讲明了，你收入的数额里也有同样数额的一部分没缴税的。那你那部分也是和1%一伙儿的了？</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>开会</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="帖子" title="帖子" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">发表于: 2/24/2012 17:59<span class="gen"> </span> 发表主题: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">失业率8%，领救济的怎么可能有42%？嘻嘻</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>了因</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="帖子" title="帖子" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">发表于: 2/24/2012 16:12<span class="gen"> </span> 发表主题: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>开会 写到:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">回楼上Leefd和xiaoqiang: <br />我觉得你们在说的是三个不同的问题， <br />一，好吃懒做者 <br />二，累进税制 <br />三，政府税收使用 <br /> <br />一，这是勤劳的人都不喜欢的。但是这样的人并没有47%，远没有。所以批评47%是不对的。 <br /> <br />二，既然47%的定义是未缴联邦收入税，那他们为什么没缴呢？主要因为他们的收入减去deductions的结果数字只够到最低一档括号。在累进税制下，所有人都是经过了最低一档括号，剩下的收入再逐层适用递增税率的。所以其实53%们也一直享受到的最低括号的免税，和47%享受到的没区别。不如先主动放弃最低括号的免税，再去理直气壮地批评47%。 <br /> <br />三，政府税收的使用，华盛顿定法案多受游说系统影响，游说系统代表大公司和富人阶层利益，普通选民能施加影响但是有限。那么1）政府的支出项目和47%的利益很难挂钩，2）政府支出的数额用在大公司和富人身上远比用在普通人身上多。这就是99%和1%的根本对比所在。xiaoqiang的不爽正源于此。 <br /> <br />这是三个不同的问题。高调标榜自己为53%的行为，注意我是说行为不是说人，是因为第二个问题没看清楚或者根本在不负责任地胡搅蛮缠或者是上了1%的挑拨离间的当。 <br /> <br />回楼上了因： <br />我觉得你跑题跑挺远的 <img src="images/smiles/smilie_laugh.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />呵呵，那有个专业术语的，叫：和稀泥。 <img src="images/smiles/smilie_laugh.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> <img src="images/smiles/smilie_laugh.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> <br /> <br />我确实在哪里看到过，美国领取救济的占人口42％。这就不是不用交所得税的百分比了。</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>xiaoqiang</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="帖子" title="帖子" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">发表于: 2/24/2012 15:37<span class="gen"> </span> 发表主题: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">不缴税的人和1%的人是一伙的。 <br /> <br />税收改革的正确方向是增加 tax base, 同时 flatten tax rate。任何人 who try to divert from these two goals are 骗子。That's why I say old fox in Omaha is a 骗子。That's also why I support O's effort to increase dividend tax and the bi-partisan effort to lower income tax rate. I also support 我见's proposal to increase tax rate on long term capital gain. <br /> <br />At the end of the day, whoever wants to keep dividend and long term capital gain tax low and increase income tax rate are the enemy of the middle class, no matter which party he belongs to. <br /> <br />Jack Abromoff 的 Capitol Punishment 这本书很好的解释了为什么 government 手中的钱越少越好，值得读一读。 <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>开会 写到:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />三，政府税收的使用，华盛顿定法案多受游说系统影响，游说系统代表大公司和富人阶层利益，普通选民能施加影响但是有限。那么1）政府的支出项目和47%的利益很难挂钩，2）政府支出的数额用在大公司和富人身上远比用在普通人身上多。这就是99%和1%的根本对比所在。xiaoqiang的不爽正源于此。 <br /> <br /></td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>开会</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="帖子" title="帖子" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">发表于: 2/24/2012 12:36<span class="gen"> </span> 发表主题: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">回楼上Leefd和xiaoqiang: <br />我觉得你们在说的是三个不同的问题， <br />一，好吃懒做者 <br />二，累进税制 <br />三，政府税收使用 <br /> <br />一，这是勤劳的人都不喜欢的。但是这样的人并没有47%，远没有。所以批评47%是不对的。 <br /> <br />二，既然47%的定义是未缴联邦收入税，那他们为什么没缴呢？主要因为他们的收入减去deductions的结果数字只够到最低一档括号。在累进税制下，所有人都是经过了最低一档括号，剩下的收入再逐层适用递增税率的。所以其实53%们也一直享受到的最低括号的免税，和47%享受到的没区别。不如先主动放弃最低括号的免税，再去理直气壮地批评47%。 <br /> <br />三，政府税收的使用，华盛顿定法案多受游说系统影响，游说系统代表大公司和富人阶层利益，普通选民能施加影响但是有限。那么1）政府的支出项目和47%的利益很难挂钩，2）政府支出的数额用在大公司和富人身上远比用在普通人身上多。这就是99%和1%的根本对比所在。xiaoqiang的不爽正源于此。 <br /> <br />这是三个不同的问题。高调标榜自己为53%的行为，注意我是说行为不是说人，是因为第二个问题没看清楚或者根本在不负责任地胡搅蛮缠或者是上了1%的挑拨离间的当。 <br /> <br />回楼上了因： <br />我觉得你跑题跑挺远的 <img src="images/smiles/smilie_laugh.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>了因</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="帖子" title="帖子" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">发表于: 2/24/2012 09:57<span class="gen"> </span> 发表主题: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>了因 写到:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">昨天聚会说起美国社会积累下来的问题。结果发现美国两个问题，完全属于两个不同的主义。 <br /> <br />福利负担过重，那属于socialism走过头的问题。 <br /> <br />金融垄断寡头，那属于capitalism走过头的问题。 <br /> <br />美国倒不错，两种不同主义的弊端都占全了。 <img src="images/smiles/smilie_laugh.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> <img src="images/smiles/smilie_laugh.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />左派走极端没能防止，右派走极端没能防止，打错误的伊拉克战争没能防止，所谓的大选式民主能够防止领导犯错误的监督和纠错功能，好像不灵的嘛。 <br /> <br />既然正面的监督功能不灵，负面的拖后腿扯皮功能又太灵了，也许该到大选式民主寿终正寝的时候了吧，别再在那里演戏蒙人了吧。</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>了因</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="帖子" title="帖子" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">发表于: 2/22/2012 09:51<span class="gen"> </span> 发表主题: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">昨天聚会说起美国社会积累下来的问题。结果发现美国两个问题，完全属于两个不同的主义。 <br /> <br />福利负担过重，那属于socialism走过头的问题。 <br /> <br />金融垄断寡头，那属于capitalism走过头的问题。 <br /> <br />美国倒不错，两种不同主义的弊端都占全了。 <img src="images/smiles/smilie_laugh.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> <img src="images/smiles/smilie_laugh.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>了因</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="帖子" title="帖子" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">发表于: 2/21/2012 09:37<span class="gen"> </span> 发表主题: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>xiaoqiang 写到:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.” <br /> <br />― Alexis de Tocqueville</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />美国这游戏能玩得比较长，是因为不断有外来金融补贴了，基本上每十年一次大补，平常一直小补。 <br /> <br />现在如果在地球上玩不转了，可能下一步还可以去天堂找补贴。 <img src="images/smiles/smilie_laugh.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> <img src="images/smiles/smilie_laugh.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> <br /> <br />地球上的人类阶段性末日，可能就是因为这个原因才来的吧，因为天堂伤不起啊。</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>了因</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="帖子" title="帖子" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">发表于: 2/21/2012 09:30<span class="gen"> </span> 发表主题: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">可以设想那样一种场景：那个女孩经过几年的努力，发现还是没法还清债务。然后她看到那1％利用资本的游戏规则那么容易就大捞大钱，看到那46％放弃努力充分利用福利规则其实也没有比她赚到的钱少多少，最后她决定can not beat them then join them，也加入了那46％的行列了。 <br /> <br />已经听到几个朋友抱怨房子under water依然需要付房贷了，或者refinance需要再次down pay，以前的down pay血本无归。而国家对于房贷的补贴又轮不到他们。国家的补贴哪里来的，还是要他们买单的呀。而那些零首付的人呢，每次补贴都能轮到。所以确实是老实按规则办的人吃亏，能钻规则漏洞的赚便宜，能玩弄规则的则赚大钱。</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>xiaoqiang</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="帖子" title="帖子" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">发表于: 2/20/2012 23:47<span class="gen"> </span> 发表主题: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.” <br /> <br />― Alexis de Tocqueville</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>xiaoqiang</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="帖子" title="帖子" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">发表于: 2/20/2012 11:52<span class="gen"> </span> 发表主题: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">My anger is mainly targeted at O Big Ben Old Fox in Omaha and other hypocrites of their type who promotes so****lism. <br /> <br />In their grand scheme, a few elites supported by the ??% sheeple, will milk the rest of the country, a.k.a, the middle class, until everyone become parasites. Their approach may appear to be kind, but helps no one. <br /> <br />I cannot make my points sound less heartless. I respect the poor and unfortunate who break their backs working and live from hands to mouth, I will help them if I can. But I cannot spare my disdain towards those who can work honestly but choose to steal from the system instead. <br /> <br /> <br /></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>开会 写到:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br /> <br />I am deeply troubled by the comments I see here by you, leefd and pompano. The quote above sounds like what a heartless person would say, and I know none of you are one. <br /> <br />Just because you and I are fortunate enough in our lives to make it to the whatever percent doesn't mean you and I have the ground to call those who aren't lazy, stupid and irresponsible. Fifteen percent of the American population actually DO live in poverty, with a disproportionately large number of children. These people would not be in their position today if they had our parents, grew up in our families, went to our schools and got our degrees. Life is simply not fair. From the very beginning. <br /> <br />It's not about math here. It's about how we think. If we can't help the less fortunate, at least we can be kind. <br /> <br />I wish the girl in the picture have her youth, health, job, no kids and no misfortune for ever so she'd never have to worry about getting close the other percentage. Don't know if she's lazy, but posting a photo of herself with such a note on the Internet is definitely irresponsible and maybe, stupid.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subSilver/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
