• hailang
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发表于: 1/06/2009 11:10 发表主题: ZT亨廷顿当不上科学院院士
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亨廷顿当不上科学院院士

---李宁

李宁的博客 (公共政策、创新政策、科学政策)

美国最著名的政治学大家之一亨廷顿教授(Samuel Phillips Huntington,1927.4.18
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The National Academy of Sciences controversy
In 1986, Huntington was nominated for membership to the National Academy of Sciences, with his nomination voted on by the entire academy, but most votes, by scientists mainly unfamiliar with the nominee, being token votes. Professor Serge Lang, a Yale University mathematician, disturbed this electoral status quo by challenging Huntington's nomination. Lang campaigned for others to deny Huntington membership, and eventually succeeded; Huntington was twice nominated and twice rejected. A detailed description of these events was published by Lang in Academia, Journalism, and Politics: A Case Study: The Huntington Case which occupies the first 222 pages of his 1998 book Challenges.[7]

In the book Political Order in Changing Societies that Huntington published in 1968 he used pseudo-mathematical arguments to argue that in the 1960s South Africa was a "satisfied society". Lang didn't believe the conclusion, so he looked how Huntington justified this claim and concluded that he used methodology which was simply not valid. Lang suspected that he was using false pseudo-mathematical argument to give arguments that he wanted to justify greater authority. It was, said Lang:-

... a type of language which gives the illusion of science without any of its substance.

Huntington's prominence as a Harvard professor and (as then) Director of Harvard's Center for International Affairs contributed to much reportage by The New York Times newspaper and The New Republic magazine of his defeated nomination to the NAS.

Lang was inspired by the writings of mathematician Neal Koblitz who accused Huntington of misusing mathematics and engaging in pseudo-science. Lang claimed that Huntington distorted the historical record and used pseudo-mathematics to make his conclusions appear convincing. Lang documents his accusations in his book Challenges.

Huntington’s supporters included Herbert Simon, a 1978 Nobel Laureate in Economics. The Mathematical Intelligencer offered Simon and Koblitz an opportunity to engage in a written debate, which they accepted.


(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_P._Huntington)
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发表于: 1/06/2009 12:17 发表主题:
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这不就是说:“勿让对几何学无知者入内”吗?
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The article is well balanced, but why did the Chinese translator give it a provocative and misleading title? confused
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"发表评论人:xcfcn [2008-12-30 9:36:35]
这个话题很有趣。数学与政治的关系。
据说美国的政治学很大一部分都数学化了。尤其以伯克利为甚。
清华有个阎学通,也是伯克利的PhD,他就提倡什么政治预测科学化。
若干年前提出2008年台海战争必然爆发。当然现在是2008最后一天了。
而且很搞笑的事情是马当选后,阎还为其预测不准郑重公开道歉。
不懂的人还以为阎敢做敢当,其实他是再次重申自己的方法是没有问题的,这次是偶尔失手而已。
不过国内同行对他那一套质疑很多。他反驳说我玩得那一套你们都不懂,你们凭什么质疑阿。"

Laughing
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我晕 我晕 我晕

在政治数学化与政治伪数学化之间,两害取其轻,似乎应该选前者。

如果用数学 support 自己的观点,在别人指出数学的漏洞之后又说数学不能完全解释自己的观点,这似乎是在骗人。

hailang 写到:
"发表评论人:xcfcn [2008-12-30 9:36:35]
这个话题很有趣。数学与政治的关系。
据说美国的政治学很大一部分都数学化了。尤其以伯克利为甚。
清华有个阎学通,也是伯克利的PhD,他就提倡什么政治预测科学化。
若干年前提出2008年台海战争必然爆发。当然现在是2008最后一天了。
而且很搞笑的事情是马当选后,阎还为其预测不准郑重公开道歉。
不懂的人还以为阎敢做敢当,其实他是再次重申自己的方法是没有问题的,这次是偶尔失手而已。
不过国内同行对他那一套质疑很多。他反驳说我玩得那一套你们都不懂,你们凭什么质疑阿。"

Laughing

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good article, informative and well-balanced. thanks for posting this.